FASERIP-Slugfest: Danger Room!

A Danger Room type scenario, Cyclops and Corsair using it for training. Cyclops is another example of using the ‘level’ attribute as a column shift holder. His writeup in the X-Men set points out he has Incredible agility with his Optic Blasts. This goes nicely with Corsair having Weapon Specialist in the Ben Riely version – in the box set he has Marksmanship.

The Riely stats have Cyclops with X-Men costume body armour at Excellent/Excellent – and Corsair only Good/Good – which means his Amazing Blaster Pistols take 3 shots to put Cyclops down. Cyclops also has an initiative advantage. All that running around in a zillion different scenarios, compared to spaceshift manoeuvring.

Anyway, an example of working on Energy and Force blast use, with a ‘best damage’ rank heuristic added.

Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 23178; Corsair: 0.2 ± 0.0; Cyclops: 0.8 ± 0.0;

Team Corsair = winning battles: 1958; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team Cyclops = winning battles: 8042; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Corsair: {team=Corsair; avg Health=-22.9425 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 35.33; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.18/0.0/0.53/0.1/0.68; rounds (PBA)=1.26;}
Cyclops: {team=Cyclops; avg Health=44.666 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 102.94; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.45/0.63/0.12/0.0/0.85; rounds (PBA)=2.02;}

Remove both their armours:

Battles: 1000; Sum of rounds: 2097; Cyclops: 0.63 ± 0.02; Corsair: 0.37 ± 0.02;

Team Cyclops = winning battles: 629; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team Corsair = winning battles: 371; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Corsair NA: {team=Corsair; avg Health=-19.795 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 49.05; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.98/0.0/0.42/0.08/0.56; rounds (PBA)=1.24;}
Cyclops NA: {team=Cyclops; avg Health=30.95 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 99.8; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.18/0.54/0.1/0.0/0.68; rounds (PBA)=1.61;}

Roll back to a younger version of Corsair’s son and only Amazing damage Optic Blasts: –

Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 21373; Corsair: 0.38 ± 0.0; Cyclops: 0.62 ± 0.0;

Team Corsair = winning battles: 3791; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team Cyclops = winning battles: 6209; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Cyclops Early: {team=Cyclops; avg Health=30.435 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 69.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.18/0.51/0.1/0.0/0.7; rounds (PBA)=1.63;}
Corsair NA: {team=Corsair; avg Health=10.175 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 49.56; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.99/0.0/0.42/0.09/0.58; rounds (PBA)=1.27;}

Still basically similar – each take only two hits to win – +2 Initiative bonus is a big differentiator.

FASERIP-Slugfest: Hawkeye vs Boomerang

File:Phoenix Comicon 2011 Hawkeye from the Avengers.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
Hawkeye

Two missile weapon specialists.

Their FASE stats are identical. They are both Weapon Specialists in their chosen projectiles. Both with Remarkable Agility, giving them Amazing checks for extra attacks.

If you assign the damage for a boomerang and an arrow to be the same, not counting the greater array of tricks Hawkeye has this is a 50-50 standup shootout.

The Judges Book writeup gives Hawkeye +3CS with a bow, which is not RAW – Weapon Skills don’t stack, this is stacking his Marksman with Weapon Specialist as a Super Archer of sorts. This is before Ultimate Skill in the UPB, which you could certainly see him having.


Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 27291; Hawkeye: 0.5 ± 0.0; Boomerang: 0.5 ± 0.0;

Team Hawkeye = winning battles: 5047; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team Boomerang = winning battles: 4953; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Hawkeye: {team=Hawkeye; avg Health=21.701 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 58.38; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.95/0.0/0.81/0.26/0.95; rounds (PBA)=1.99;}
Boomerang: {team=Boomerang; avg Health=21.62 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 58.3; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.94/0.0/0.83/0.24/0.96; rounds (PBA)=1.97;}

Give Hawkeye that benefit:

Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 23243; Hawkeye: 0.69 ± 0.0; Boomerang: 0.31 ± 0.0;

Team Hawkeye = winning battles: 6907; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team Boomerang = winning battles: 3093; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Boomerang: {team=Boomerang; avg Health=9.44 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 43.04; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.43/0.0/0.6/0.18/0.71; rounds (PBA)=1.42;}
Hawkeye: {team=Hawkeye; avg Health=36.962 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 70.56; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 2.35/0.0/1.08/0.31/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.8;}

The extra attacks FEAT roll is then only a Green intensity, much easier and a considerable advantage. Some Hawkeye writeups specify ‘3 Attacks per Round’ This would involve writing code to make that a white roll to get extra attacks – which clearly would boost the win rate higher.

Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 21632; Boomerang: 0.25 ± 0.0; Hawkeye: 0.75 ± 0.0;

Team Boomerang = winning battles: 2540; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team Hawkeye = winning battles: 7460; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Boomerang: {team=Boomerang; avg Health=5.741 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 38.08; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.27/0.0/0.53/0.17/0.63; rounds (PBA)=1.23;}
Hawkeye: {team=Hawkeye; avg Health=41.924 (from 80); damage done (per battle average)= 74.26; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 2.48/0.0/1.16/0.32/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.7;}

FASERIP-Slugfest: GHOTMU Shang-Chi – Mook Massacre

The, he’s tired and not psyched up now, send a new batch – rush him scenario!

Battles: 1000; Sum of rounds: 3255; martialarts: 0.79 ± 0.01; boxer: 0.21 ± 0.01;

Team martialarts = winning battles: 785; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team boxer = winning battles: 215; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
GHOTMU Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=59.776 (from 130); damage done (per battle average)= 522.42; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 21.55/0.58/0.13/0.0/0.98; rounds (PBA)=3.21;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.75; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.79/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.78; rounds (PBA)=1.73;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.48; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.75/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.82; rounds (PBA)=1.73;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.69; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.78/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.78; rounds (PBA)=1.72;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.48; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.75/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.83; rounds (PBA)=1.71;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.49; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.75/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.82; rounds (PBA)=1.73;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.9; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.82/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.73; rounds (PBA)=1.72;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.54; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.76/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.78; rounds (PBA)=1.72;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.85; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.81/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.79; rounds (PBA)=1.7;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.46; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.74/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.74;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.79; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.8/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.8; rounds (PBA)=1.72;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.9; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.82/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.78; rounds (PBA)=1.72;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.75; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.79/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.75; rounds (PBA)=1.72;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.74; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.79/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.8; rounds (PBA)=1.71;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.86; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.81/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.76; rounds (PBA)=1.75;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.828 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.54; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.76/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.72;}

So there’s a 1 in 5 strategy if they can all get to him and he stays put.

FASERIP-Slugfest: GHOTMU Psyched Shang-Chi – Mook Massacre

Adding the code to make a -4 CS attack on ALL the boxers at once does what you would expect, with the super strong Shang.

Battles: 1000; Sum of rounds: 2516; martialarts: 0.99 ± 0.0; boxer: 0.01 ± 0.0;

Team martialarts = winning battles: 986; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team boxer = winning battles: 14; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 2.11; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.35/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.28; rounds (PBA)=0.7;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.72; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.29/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.3; rounds (PBA)=0.68;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.76; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.29/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.31; rounds (PBA)=0.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.87; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.31/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.31; rounds (PBA)=0.68;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.95; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.33/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.3; rounds (PBA)=0.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.82; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.3/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.34; rounds (PBA)=0.71;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.84; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.31/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.32; rounds (PBA)=0.7;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.88; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.31/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.32; rounds (PBA)=0.7;}
GHOTMU Psyched Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=156.896 (from 185); damage done (per battle average)= 513.27; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 14.79/0.44/0.09/0.0/0.54; rounds (PBA)=2.51;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.96; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.33/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.29; rounds (PBA)=0.7;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.86; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.31/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.33; rounds (PBA)=0.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.88; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.31/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.31; rounds (PBA)=0.68;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.93; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.32/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.31; rounds (PBA)=0.7;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.89; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.32/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.31; rounds (PBA)=0.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.78; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.3/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.32; rounds (PBA)=0.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.218 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 1.85; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.31/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.31; rounds (PBA)=0.68;}

14 in a 1000 succeed, battles last 2.5 rounds, if you can get 15 in there. Will see how the normal version does next.

We could use this to test at what Fighting rank do you not try this? As a GM I’d be inclined to say no Mr Boxer, you can’t fight 15 at once – maybe a cutoff is one per Fighting rank if a PC.

So that strategy, if you can get to all of them, goes to 99% from 35%.

FASERIP-Slugfest: GHOTMU Psyched Shang-Chi vs the Fourteen Gloves

Adding in the +1 CS Martial Arts B gives and the +1 to initiative for Martial Arts E we get:

Battles: 1000; Sum of rounds: 7834; boxer: 0.45 ± 0.02; martialarts: 0.55 ± 0.02;

Team boxer = winning battles: 449; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 449;
Team martialarts = winning battles: 551; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
GHOTMU Psyched Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=24.362 (from 185); damage done (per battle average)= 381.03; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 11.29/4.98/1.92/0.0/3.23; rounds (PBA)=7.71;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.78 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.45; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.91/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.87; rounds (PBA)=3.85;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-2.418 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.81; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.97/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.94; rounds (PBA)=3.97;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.08 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.59; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.93/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.94; rounds (PBA)=3.95;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-2.97 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.15; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.86/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.94; rounds (PBA)=3.88;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.534 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.32; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.89/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.88; rounds (PBA)=3.84;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-2.566 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.68; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.95/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.94; rounds (PBA)=3.95;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-2.746 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.65; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.94/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.91; rounds (PBA)=3.93;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.74 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.1; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.85/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.92; rounds (PBA)=3.85;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-2.906 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 12.09; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 2.02/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.97; rounds (PBA)=4.05;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.204 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.06; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.84/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.9; rounds (PBA)=3.83;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.41 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.65; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.94/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.89; rounds (PBA)=3.9;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.562 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.02; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.84/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.91; rounds (PBA)=3.83;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.644 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.76; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.96/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.84; rounds (PBA)=3.88;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.474 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.32; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.89/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.92; rounds (PBA)=3.9;}

Fifteen boxers is around 65% for the glovewearers.

FASERIP-Slugfest: GHOTMU Psyched Shang-Chi vs a Baker’s Dozen

Allowing the Psyche up to get to superhuman strength means he comes up on top of 13 more often than not (14 flips a bit the other way), given the try for three attack option. I still haven’t implemented martial arts – which would boost initiative and make it easier to hit, making the 14 closer to even.

Battles: 1000; Sum of rounds: 8120; martialarts: 0.63 ± 0.02; boxer: 0.37 ± 0.02;

Team martialarts = winning battles: 627; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team boxer = winning battles: 373; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 373;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.46 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.41; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.9/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.97; rounds (PBA)=3.96;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.904 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.63; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.94/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.93; rounds (PBA)=3.96;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.426 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.78; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.96/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.98; rounds (PBA)=4.03;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.188 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.96; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.99/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.08; rounds (PBA)=4.16;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.16 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 12.02; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 2.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.04; rounds (PBA)=4.13;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.868 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.91; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.99/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.05; rounds (PBA)=4.12;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-3.928 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 12.55; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 2.09/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.02; rounds (PBA)=4.2;}
GHOTMU Psyched Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=30.248 (from 185); damage done (per battle average)= 370.21; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 10.92/5.03/1.37/0.0/4.09; rounds (PBA)=7.99;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.124 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.9; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.98/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.01; rounds (PBA)=4.09;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.84 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.86; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.98/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.97; rounds (PBA)=4.06;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.02 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.92; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.99/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.02; rounds (PBA)=4.09;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.708 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.95; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.99/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.01; rounds (PBA)=4.12;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.856 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.94; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.99/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.92; rounds (PBA)=3.98;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-4.728 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.9
1; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.99/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.97; rounds (PBA)=4.05;}

FASERIP-Slugfest: GHOTMU Shang-Chi vs the Six Boxers – combat style

I have implemented the multi attacks if you are good enough Fighting Feat rule for this.

It is a Remarkable Intensity Fighting FEAT to get two attacks or an Amazing FEAT to get three. Therefore, not worth it unless you are really good, and not worth trying for three unless you have Amazing – so there’s the demarcation – limit of human fighting ability, it is worth trying for 3 attacks.

This table sets it out that you are better off trying for 2 at Remarkable and 3 at Amazing.

FGYm1CSm3CS2att3 att
Rm0.650.350.60.50.745
Am0.750.450.70.61.21.275

There’s another rule that you can multiattack the lot at once if feasible with a -4 CS, which would be. This would make for short fights if you went by the simple everyone can attack everyone, as more than half the time Shang Chi would put down all the boxers in reach [in Psyched up mode], then. Less and less friendly sparring then, but appropriate for mooks when you are Amazing. This would then be a case of how many waves of minions can you send in to finally wear them down when it is for real. Also will take more time to code that one.

When he has the option for 3 attacks then:-

Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 85915; martialarts: 0.96 ± 0.0; boxer: 0.04 ± 0.0;

Team martialarts = winning battles: 9567; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team boxer = winning battles: 433; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 432;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
GHOTMU Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=58.9378 (from 130); damage done (per battle average)= 230.99; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 9.8/4.16/1.27/0.0/4.84; rounds (PBA)=8.57;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-14.5156 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.93; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.99/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.97; rounds (PBA)=4.18;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-14.4204 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.97/0.0/0.0/0.0/2.0; rounds (PBA)=4.19;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-14.4516 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.97/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.98; rounds (PBA)=4.17;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-14.4732 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.97/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.98; rounds (PBA)=4.17;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-14.5448 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.77; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.96/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.99; rounds (PBA)=4.17;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-14.586 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 11.87; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.98/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.97; rounds (PBA)=4.18;}

This makes 8 boxers now the around about even point, in this situation.

FASERIP-Slugfest: GHOTMU Shang-Chi vs the Six Boxers

Classic Marvel Forever Shang-Chi

My Gamer’s Handbook of the Marvel Universe has Shang-Chi’s Endurance as Remarkable, which I would have expected – best Martial Artist in the world being untiring, having low level superhuman Endurance? Sure, how I would have modelled him from experience. Anyway, what does that do in this situation? 130 Health as opposed to 120 means it takes two more hits for the boxers to put him down, so his win rate goes up to 70% from 58% in this basic situation.

Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 60026; boxer: 0.42 ± 0.0; martialarts: 0.58 ± 0.0;

Team boxer = winning battles: 4194; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 4190;
Team martialarts = winning battles: 5806; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=17.544 (from 120); damage done (per battle average)= 96.73; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 4.04/1.89/0.53/0.0/1.36; rounds (PBA)=5.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.3076 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.58; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.43/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.02;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.2516 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.47; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.41/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.44; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.2492 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.56; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.43/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.44; rounds (PBA)=3.02;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.1712 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.56; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.43/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.42; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.208 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.61; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.44/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.42; rounds (PBA)=3.01;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.266 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.45; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.41/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}
Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=17.544 (from 120); damage done (per battle average)= 96.73; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 4.04/1.89/0.53/0.0/1.36; rounds (PBA)=5.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.3076 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.58; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.43/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.02;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.2516 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.47; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.41/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.44; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.2492 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.56; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.43/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.44; rounds (PBA)=3.02;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.1712 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.56; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.43/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.42; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.208 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.61; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.44/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.42; rounds (PBA)=3.01;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.266 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.45; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.41/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}

GHOTMU Shang-Chi

Battles: 10000; Sum of rounds: 64252; martialarts: 0.7 ± 0.0; boxer: 0.3 ± 0.0;

Team martialarts = winning battles: 7029; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team boxer = winning battles: 2971; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 2968;
------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
GHOTMU Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=23.3926 (from 130); damage done (per battle average)= 103.38; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 4.32/2.02/0.57/0.0/1.46; rounds (PBA)=6.13;}
GHOTMU Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=23.3926 (from 130); damage done (per battle average)= 103.38; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 4.32/2.02/0.57/0.0/1.46; rounds (PBA)=6.13;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.582 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.47; rounds (PBA)=3.09;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.582 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.47; rounds (PBA)=3.09;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.5484 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.86; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.48/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.49; rounds (PBA)=3.11;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.1708 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 9.07; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.51/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.49; rounds (PBA)=3.15;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.688 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.82; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.48; rounds (PBA)=3.11;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.5112 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.84; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.48; rounds (PBA)=3.09;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.5484 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.86; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.48/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.49; rounds (PBA)=3.11;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.2612 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.88; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.48/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.49; rounds (PBA)=3.11;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.1708 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 9.07; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.51/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.49; rounds (PBA)=3.15;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.5112 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.84; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.48; rounds (PBA)=3.09;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.688 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.82; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.48; rounds (PBA)=3.11;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-10.2612 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.88; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.48/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.49; rounds (PBA)=3.11;}

FASERIP-Slugfest: Shang-Chi – the limits of superhuman Strength

The version of Shang-Chi here https://classicmarvelforever.com/cast/shang_chi.htm has an ability to make a Psyche Feat and put his physical FASE stats up a rank for 10 rounds. Which is longer than these simulated fights appear to take. So making a version of him boosted like that gives him Remarkable strength. Assuming for now it boosts Health as well, as don’t have it coded to reduce this – which I can add to a script later for this test.

Remarkable is an important demarcation point, as it means every punch puts down a normal human opponent on sheer damage, so one hit per opponent, not two.


Battles: 1000; Sum of rounds: 4564; boxer: 0.0 ± 0.0; martialarts: 1.0 ± 0.0;

Team boxer = winning battles: 0; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;

Team martialarts = winning battles: 1000; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0

------------------------------------------------- Combatants ------------------------------------------------
Psyched Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=117.262 (from 175); damage done (per battle average)= 100.89; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 3.0/1.3/0.54/0.0/0.77; rounds (PBA)=4.27;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.788 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.82; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.8/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.8; rounds (PBA)=1.65;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.512 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.81/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.83; rounds (PBA)=1.69;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.6 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.8; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.8/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.67;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.6 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.8; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.8/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.67;}
Psyched Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=117.262 (from 175); damage done (per battle average)= 100.89; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 3.0/1.3/0.54/0.0/0.77; rounds (PBA)=4.27;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.748 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.67; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.78/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.65;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.72 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.85; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.81/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.68;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.748 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.67; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.78/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.65;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.408 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.91; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.82/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.85; rounds (PBA)=1.71;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.788 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.82; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.8/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.8; rounds (PBA)=1.65;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.408 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.91;
hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.82/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.85; rounds (PBA)=1.71;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.72 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.85; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.81/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.81; rounds (PBA)=1.68;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-9.512 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 4.83; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 0.81/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.83; rounds (PBA)=1.69;}

Same 6 boxers, but hit more and ‘much’ harder.

FASERIP-Slugfest: Shang-Chi vs the Six Boxers

I’ll post the rat pack vs the lawyer later – seems you will still be able to get some advice in James Herbert land though.

However, thought this is an interesting scenario – given anyone can hit in FASERIP, and this is just vanilla toe-to-toe, although have now added basic stuns in. Should also perhaps add that a slammed opponent misses a turn, and check that all this works. Added kills as well, so got worse for our rat friend vs the cat, would only prevail in a couple in a thousand.

Have not added in karma yet either, which should help those with more – Shang has enough to change one hit to a miss, anyway.

In my basic spreadsheet of stats had one that is all Typical. Which means a normal human with some training in Fighting, so could call them them a boxer, or something similar. Not programmed in any Talents as yet – martial arts will be first. In the above, Shang would get a column shift to hit and the ability to try for 3 multi-attacks and an initiative bonus. The framework does individual initiative, so that one won’t matter as much – would have to add in a ‘set all initiatives to first roll’ addition later to do group initiative.


Battles: 1000; Sum of rounds: 5980; martialarts: 0.59 ± 0.02; boxer: 0.41 ± 0.02;

Team martialarts = winning battles: 588; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 0;
Team boxer = winning battles: 412; perfect battles: 0; close-call battles: 412;
------------------------------------------------- Combattants ------------------------------------------------

Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.576 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.98; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.5/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.07;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.576 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.98; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.5/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.07;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.688 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.52; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.42/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.39; rounds (PBA)=2.98;}
Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=17.4 (from 120); damage done (per battle average)= 97.31; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 4.07/1.88/0.54/0.0/1.31; rounds (PBA)=5.67;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.412 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.39; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.4/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.42; rounds (PBA)=2.98;}
Amazing Martial Artist: {team=martialarts; avg Health=17.4 (from 120); damage done (per battle average)= 97.31; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 4.07/1.88/0.54/0.0/1.31; rounds (PBA)=5.67;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.688 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.52; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.42/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.39; rounds (PBA)=2.98;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.964 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.43; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.4/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.412 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.39; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.4/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.42; rounds (PBA)=2.98;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.468 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.14; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.36/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.39; rounds (PBA)=2.88;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-7.504 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.84; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.36; rounds (PBA)=2.98;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.468 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.14; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.36/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.39; rounds (PBA)=2.88;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-7.504 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.84; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.47/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.36; rounds (PBA)=2.98;}
Boxer: {team=boxer; avg Health=-8.964 (from 24); damage done (per battle average)= 8.43; hits/slams/stuns/kills/misses (PBA)= 1.4/0.0/0.0/0.0/1.43; rounds (PBA)=3.0;}

Shang-Chi stats currently from here https://classicmarvelforever.com/cast/shang_chi.htm

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